![[Updated] Ex-CopperheadOS dev spits fire as CEO says project not dead](https://piunikaweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/copperheados_nexus_5.png "[Updated] Ex-CopperheadOS dev spits fire as CEO says project not dead")
I like to invite @DanielMicay in this conversation.
— Kingshuk 'Tito' De (@AndItsTito) February 5, 2019
New updates are being added at the bottom of this story…….
Original story (published on February 6, 2019) follows:
Followers of PiunikaWeb may remember that we published an article yesterday about the ‘demise’ of CopperheadOS and possible alternatives.
The term ‘demise’ is intentionally kept under quotes, as CopperheadOS is not actually dead. The company, Copperhead Limited, is still selling the privacy focused OS bundled with second generation Google Pixel phones.
James Donaldson, CEO of Copperhead Limited, posted a quick (and surprising) tweet after the original story got published.
https://twitter.com/_copperj/status/1092802986336813056
The author (@AndItsTito) wanted to include Daniel Micay (the lead developer of CopperheadOS, who was fired by Donaldson) in the conversation, while explaining the reasons to call the fork ‘dead’.
Last I checked, @CopperheadOS is still based on Oreo and lagging behind several security patches. 🤔
— Kingshuk 'Tito' De (@AndItsTito) February 5, 2019
Donaldson tried to defend the company by comparing it with other Android OEMs and their update strategy.
https://twitter.com/_copperj/status/1092818920539590661
A privacy + security focused distribution which is outdated (+ vulnerable) looks pretty much 'dead' to me. Yes, I consider there was a dispute, but that shouldn't be considered as an excuse for the situation.
— Kingshuk 'Tito' De (@AndItsTito) February 5, 2019
Daniel jumped in and explained why the current CopperheadOS lineup is affected by not upgrading to Android 9 Pie and related SoC/platform specific patches.
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092825606461538305
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092826079331528705
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092826367266304000
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092826672158654465
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092826941785341952
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092827670952464384
Daniel even made a serious accusation against his former company. Copperhead Limited allegedly sold Nexus 9 tablets to Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF), though the devices already reached EOL status then.
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092828948495564800
As per James Donaldson, he and Daniel Micay are currently engaged in a legal battle due to the damages done towards the company and their customers by Micay’s actions. As a consequence, the former blocked Daniel on Twitter and hence couldn’t see and/or respond to his messages yesterday.
https://twitter.com/_copperj/status/1092818770790412288
https://twitter.com/_copperj/status/1092819388967931904
https://twitter.com/_copperj/status/1092820533287227400
https://twitter.com/_copperj/status/1092821792517959685
Meanwhile, Daniel expressed that RattlesnakeOS or #!os should not be called true forks, as “They do useful work, but it’s not the same thing.”
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092823265305919491
Indeed! If you go through the article, these points are clearly mentioned. 🤓
— Kingshuk 'Tito' De (@AndItsTito) February 5, 2019
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092825256300105728
He also talked about his Hardened Android Open Source Project:
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092824690224259072
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092824946705920002
Daniel was kind enough to point out a technical mistake in our article. We wrongly assumed that the current hardened_malloc was still based on OpenBSD’s implementation.
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092818034132221954
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092819464712790016
James suggested that we should have contacted them before coming up with the article. As a result, today we have reached out to both James and Daniel individually to gather further info.
For flashaholic readers, Daniel pushed February security update yesterday.
https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1092835128919969792
TL;DR: Fasten your seatbelts! It is really not ‘dead’. Please follow the Twitter conversation for latest updates as the discussion is still ongoing.
Update 1 (June 23, 2023)
2:00 pm (IST): To know more about the current status os CopperheadOS, head here.
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Kingshuk De
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I came from a mixed background of Statistics and Computer Science. My research domains included embedded computer systems, mobile computing and delay tolerant networks in post-disaster scenarios. Apart from tinkering with gadgets or building hackintosh, I like to hop on various subreddits and forums like MyDigitalLife and XDA.
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